毛子测试整理的望远镜、天文目镜透过率汇总

赵北旅

毛子测试整理的望远镜RGB三线透过率、偏色情况及三个具体波段的透过率。

毛子用的不是专业仪器，是土办法，所以他出不了曲线图，不过同比有效。

	Light transmission	Color rendering 1	Defect in % 2	Light transmission	Light transmission	Light transmission
	in the channels R/G/B	in the channels R/G/B	color rendering	in the band 532-542 nm	in the band 492-503 nm	in the band 480-490 nm
	(Canon 400D)	(Canon 400D)	in the channels R/B	(Baader Solar Continuum)	(Lumicon OIII)	(Lumicon H-beta)
双筒
Swarovski Habicht 7x42	94.8/94.7/92.7	100/99.9/97.8	0.1/-2.1	94.5	94.4	94.1
Steiner Nighthunter XP 8x30	94.9/94.7/90.4	100/99.8/95.2	0.2/-4.6	94.7	93.2	92.4
Zeiss Victory FL 7x42	92.9/93.9/89.5	98.9/100/95.3	"-"1.1/-4.7	94.3	92.5	91.1
Kinglux 2,5x42 (Galilean)	95.4/93.3/94.4	100/97.8/99.0	2.2/1.2
Nikon E 7x35 (multi, example №2)	93.2/91.8/87.8	100/98.5/94.3	1.5/-4.3
Maven C.2 7x28	93.3/91.2/89.7	100/97.7/96.1	2.3/-1.7
Nikon E 7x35 (multi, example №1)	92.6/91.0/88.2	100/98.2/95.2	1.8/-3.1
Opticron SR.GA 8x32	91.8/90.9/85.9	100/98.9/93.6	1.1/-5.4
Bushnell Legacy 10x50	93.0/90.6/89.1	100/97.4/95.8	2.6/-1.7	89.6	88.6	88.7
Swift Audubon 8,5x44 (Chinese, 2014.)	93.0/90.5/87.8	100/97.3/94.3	2.8/-3.1	89.6	88.1	88.1
Zeiss Conquest HD 10x42	90.7/90.2/84.1	100/99.5/92.7	0.5/-6.8	90.4	88	86.7
Nikon E2 8x30 (example №2)	91.8/90.2/85.4	100/98.2/93.0	1.9/-5.3
Fujinon MT-SX 10x70	91.9/89.8/87.2	100/97.7/94.8	2.3/-3	89	88.2	88.4
Nikon E2 8x30 (example №1)	91.7/89.8/84.6	100/97.9/92.3	2.2/-5.7	89.3	86.7	85.7
Nikon E 8x30 (multi)	91.9/89.7/83.1	100/97.7/90.4	2.4/-7.4
Vixen Foresta 8x32	91.2/89.5/86.2	100/98.1/94.5	1.9/-3.7	88.9	88.7	87
Nikon Astroluxe 18x70	91.8/89.4/84.5	100/97.4/92.1	2.6/-5.5	88.7	85.8	85
Vixen Foresta 7x50	89.3/87.8/85.2	100/98.4/95.4	1.6/-3	87.3	86.4	85.8
Fujinon FMT-SX 10x50	90.0/87.8/82.3	100/97.6/91.4	2.5/-6.3	87.4	84.9	84
Vixen Ultima 10x42	89.1/87.4/82.5	100/98.0/92.6	2/-5.6
Fujinon FMT-SX 7x50	88.9/87.0/81.3	100/97.8/91.4	2.2/-6.6	86.7	85.3	84.6
Nikon E 12x40 (multi)	91.2/86.9/84.9	100/95.3/93.1	4.9/-2.4
Celestron Ultima 7x50	88.4/86.9/84.6	100/98.3/95.7	1.8/-2.6	86.2	86.7	87.3
Docter 8x58 B/CF	89.0/86.6/83.9	100/97.4/94.3	2.7/-3.2	85.8	84.5	84.6
Nikon SE 10x42	90.8/86.5/86.5	100/95.2/95.3	5/0.1	84.2	83.7	84.7
Nikon E 8x30 (single)	86.3/86.2/77.1	100/99.9/89.4	0.1/-10.5
Delta Optical Extreme 10x50 ED (United Optics BA8)	88.7/85.6/82.4	100/96.5/92.9	3.6/-3.8	84.6	83.2	83.4
Vanguard Endevor ED IV 8x42	86.6/85.5/80.6	100/98.8/93.1	1.2/-5.7
Swift Audubon 8,5x44 Japan (Japanese, last)	87.0/85.2/80.5	100/97.9/92.5	2.1/-5.5
Vixen Ultima 7x42	88.0/84.9/82.6	100/96.5/93.9	3.6/-2.7
Canon IS 15x50	82.8/84.6/72.6	97.8/100/85.8	"-"2.2/-14.2	86.3	81.7	78.9
Swift Ultralite 8x32	86.2/84.5/80.8	100/98.0/93.7	2.1/-4.3	83.9	82.6	82.6
Nikon Aculon 10x50	84.9/84.4/78.6	100/99.4/92.6	0.6/-6.9	84.6	82.1	81.1
Vixen Geoma 8x32	86.7/84.2/82.8	100/97.1/95.4	3/-1.7
Vixen Ultima zoom 9-22x50	87.6/84.1/81.7	100/95.9/93.2	4.3/-2.9
Tract Toric 10x42	87.3/83.9/82.7	100/96.1/94.8	4/-1.4
Canon 8x32 WP	83.6/83.5/82.8	100/99.9/99.0	0.1/-0.9	82.7	82.6	83.2
Steiner Hunting 8x30	85.4/83.5/71.7	100/97.8/84.0	2.3/-14.1	84.3	78	76
Celestron Pro 9x63	86.7/83.2/77.3	100/96.0/89.2	4.2/-7.1	82.7	79.7	79.2
Nikon Action EX 8x40	84.8/83.2/75.8	100/98.2/89.5	1.9/-8.8	83.4	79.7	78.5
Pentax PCF V 7x50	83.1/83.0/78.4	100/99.9/94.4	0.1/-5.5	83.1	81.2	80.5
Leica Trinovid BN 7x42	84.0/82.6/76.2	100/98.2/90.7	1.8/-7.7
Bausch&Lomb Discoverer 7x42	83.7/82.4/79.3	100/98.5/94.8	1.5/-3.7
Vanguard Endevor ED2 10x42	86.1/82.2/77.4	100/95.5/89.9	4.7/-5.9	81.2	79.2	79.3
Carl Zeiss Jena Jenoptem 8x30	79.7/81.9/71.2	97.3/100/86.9	"-"2.7/-13.1	83.4	78.5	76.5
Nippon Kogaku Nikon 8x30	83.5/81.9/69.7	100/98.1/83.5	1.9/-14.9	82.6	77.1	74.8
Olympus DPS-I 10x50	81.9/81.1/74.4	100/99.0/90.9	1/-8.2	81.4	78.5	77.4
Minolta Celtic 7x35	82.3/80.4/70.3	100/97.7/85.4	2.4/-12.5	80.7	75.8	74.3
DeepSky 7x50 MS (United Optics BA8)	86.9/80.2/77.2	100/92.3/88.9	8.3/-3.7	78.3	75.2	75.4
Vanguard Endevor ED 10x42	84.9/80.0/74.7	100/94.2/87.9	6.2/-6.6	78.8	77.2	77.4
Barr&Stroud Savannah ED 12x56	83.7/79.0/74.7	100/94.4/89.2	5.9/-5.5
Bresser Spektar 7x35	84.1/78.8/74.6	100/93.7/88.8	6.8/-5.3
Pentax PCF II 7x35	81.7/78.7/69.5	100/96.3/85.1	3.9/-11.6	78.7	73.9	72.5
Pentax PCF III 10x50	81.3/78.6/70.3	100/96.6/86.4	3.5/-10.5	78.6	74.3	73
Bausch&Lomb Legacy 7x35	80.2/78.1/69.9	100/97.5/87.1	2.6/-10.6	78.3	74.7	73.5
Pentax PCF I 7x50	81.0/78.1/68.6	100/96.4/84.6	3.7/-12.2	78.2	73.5	72.1
Minolta Activa 10x50 (Chinese)	79.7/76.5/78.6	100/96.0/98.7	4.2/2.8	74.6	77	79
Minolta Standard XL 10x50	81.1/76.4/64.9	100/94.2/80.1	6.1/-15	76.2	70.1	68.3
Nikon Aculon 8x21	76.7/75.9/71.1	100/99.0/92.8	1/-6.3
Leitz Trinovid 10x40 (dust on prisms?)	75.8/75.6/66.3	100/99.7/87.5	0.3/-12.3
Minolta Standart XL 7x35	80.5/75.3/65.2	100/93.5/81.0	6.9/-13.4	74.8	69.1	67.7
Swift Audubon MKII 8,5x44 (Japanese, 1972-1984)	72.4/74.7/71.6	96.9/100/95.9	"-"3.1/-4.1	75	73.5	73.2
Minolta Compact Weathermatic 10x23	77.4/73.3/61.4	100/94.7/79.4	5.6/-16.2
KOMZ BOC5 8х30 (2009)	71.6/72.7/67.5	98.5/100/92.9	"-"1.5/-7.1	73.1	70.8	69.9
ZOMZ BPShTS 6x30	70.1/71.4/56.9	98.1/100/79.7	"-"1.9/-20.3
KOMZ MP2 8x30 (2010)	70.8/70.6/62.9	100/99.7/88.8	0.3/-10.9	70.9	67.5	66.2
KOMZ BPOs 7х30	68.4/69.6/54.7	98.3/100/78.7	"-"1.7/-21.3
Vixen 16x50 Z-type №511 H219 (Japan circa 1970-1980)	68.6/66.7/58.4	100/97.3/85.1	2.8/-12.5
Bushnell Spectator 4x30	54.8/58.1/51.9	94.3/100/89.2	"-"5.7/-10.8
Bushnell H2O 10x42	60.6/56.8/49.1	100/93.7/81.0	6.7/-13.6	56.4	52.1	51.3
观鸟镜
Kowa TSN-773	88.4/88.5/85.4	99.9/100/96.5	"-"0.1/-3.5
Pentax PF-65EDA II	83.5/84.6/83.1	98.8/100/98.2	"-"1.2/-1.8
Celestron Regal F-ED 80	69.1/67.7/64.3	100/98.1/93.2	1.9/-5
Pentax PF-65EDA II + XW 14mm	79.7/79.7/75.9	100/100.0/95.2	0.0/-4.7
Kowa TSN-773 + TE-11WZ	80.5/79.1/73.2	100/98.2/90.9	1.9/-7.4
Celestron Regal F-ED 80 + eyepiece 20-60x	63.6/61.3/57.5	100/96.3/90.3	3.8/-6.2

未整理成表格的其他双筒
CANON 10x42 L IS WP
470 нм: 80%, 670 нм: 85%, не более: 87% , но 85% между 490 нм и 670 нм.

KOWA XD PROMINAR 10,5x44
470 нм: 77%, 670 нм: 75%, не более: 83% @ 600 нм.

LEICA ULTRAVID 10x42 HD
470 нм: 82%, 670 нм: 83%, не более: 90% @ 610 нм.

LEUPOLD ЗОЛОТОЕ КОЛЬЦО 10x42 HD
470 нм: 73%, 670 нм: 80%, не более: 85% от 580 нм до 630 нм.

Meopta MEOSTAR B1 10x42
470 нм: 77%, 670 нм: 87%, не более: 91% от 600 нм и 650 нм.

MINOX APO HG 10x43 BR ASPH.
470 нм: 78%, 670 нм: 78%, макс.: 85% от 540 нм до 630 нм

NIKON 10x42 HG L DCF
470 нм: 83%, 670 нм: 86%, не более: 91% @ 610 нм.

NIKON 10x42 SE CF
470 нм: 85%, 670 нм: 88%, не более:. 91% от 600 нм до 650 нм

PENTAX DCF ED 10x43
470 нм : 78%, 670 нм: 83%, не более: 87% @ 610 нм.

SWAROVSKI EL 10x42 WB
670 нм: 76% , но свыше 85% от 460 нм до 650 нм, не более 88%.

ZEISS VICTORY 10x42 T * FL
470 нм: 85%, 670 нм: 76%, не более: 94% @ 560 нм.

接下来是部分天文目镜

TeleVue Delos 14mm	96.9/95.8/93.8	100/98.9/96.8
William Optics SWAN 33mm	95.9/95.4/92.7	100/99.4/96.6
Edmund Optics RKE 28mm	95.7/95.1/91.5	100/99.4/95.7
Pentax XW 14mm	95.6/94.4/91.6	100/98.7/95.7
TeleVue Nagler 31mm	96.3/94.9/89.6	100/98.5/93.0
Meade HD-60 25mm	95.5/94.8/89.4	100/99.2/93.6

Celestron X-Cel LX 7mm	94.7/94.9/92.6	99.8/100/97.5
Agena Extra WideVue 10mm 82°	94.5/94.3/92.6	100/99.8/98.0
Deepsky Plano 6.5mm	94.2/94.1/89.7	100/99.8/95.1
Meade HD-60 6.5mm	93.4/93.2/88.5	100/99.8/94.7
Explore Scientific 14mm 82° экземпляр №1	94.1/93.0/89.6	100/98.8/95.1
Explore Scientific 24mm 82°	94.4/92.6/88.5	100/98.1/93.8
Explore Scientific 14mm 82° экземпляр №2	93.6/92.4/89.5	100/98.7/95.7
Explore Scientific 24mm 68°	94.7/91.9/90.5	100/97.1/95.6
Vixen NLV 5mm	93.5/91.7/90.7	100/98.1/97.1
Explore Scientific 8.8mm 82°	93.5/91.0/89.4	100/97.2/95.6
Explore Scientific 14mm 100°	93.5/90.8/86.9	100/97.1/92.9
Explore Scientific 5.5mm 100°	89.9/89.0/87.9	100/99.0/97.7
Explore Scientific 9mm 100°	90.9/86.8/83.9	100/95.5/92.3

Agena SWA 20mm экземпляр №1	95.7/94.3/92.8	100/98.6/97.0
William Optics SWAN 20mm	94.9/94.1/89.6	100/99.1/94.4
Televue Delos 10mm	94.7/94.0/92.1	100/99.3/97.2
Agena SWA 20mm экземпляр №2	95.3/93.6/91.8	100/98.2/96.3
Pentax XW 10mm	94.3/93.4/90.3	100/99.1/95.7
Pentax XW 7mm	95.0/93.0/90.7	100/97.9/95.5
Meade 4000 56mm Super Plossl	86.6/85.8/82.2	100/99.1/94.8
Bresser Spektar 7x35	84.1/78.8/74.6	100/93.7/88.8

赵北旅

很遗憾，不少国内流行的型号没有。
国内就没人做这事吗？荷兰，毛子，波兰，德国，美国都有人定期发布，不过真的发布，有些镜子恐怕就要现行了。

赵北旅

fihoo 发表于 2019-6-29 13:50
好帖好帖！非常翔实宝贵的资料，收藏

网上数据很多，只不过我懒得整理，这个毛子比较有心，测完还理成表格。

赵北旅

刚刚 发表于 2019-6-29 15:20
海白菜742指标不错.  表观再扩个10度左右就好了.

再扩10°就到不了这指标了。

赵北旅

北旅之星 发表于 2019-6-29 15:08
可以做，但是设备太贵，基本上都是几十万，自制下来也差不多十来万，关键是没有效益产出。
国内工厂很少 ...

你每年论坛不得这些钱？有啥效益产出？还不如搞这个了。

赵北旅

fihoo 发表于 2019-6-29 17:01
那个kowa配11套装，透光确实软肋，别的网站测的也是差不多，比atx低10来个点，施华鸟镜至少在透光率上一 ...

kowa的几个镜子包括双筒在透过率方面都有明显的软肋，偏色也比较严重。
TSN773本身没有什么明显的偏色倾向，但TE11的曲线在B线上不行，导致整体偏黄。

赵北旅

zzviking 发表于 2019-6-29 21:30
SWAROVSKI EL 10x42 WB
670 нм: 76% , но свыше 85% от 460 нм до 650 нм, не бол ...

没啥离谱的，那个76%是670nm的透过率了，超过650nm以后很多镜子透过率都是直线下跌的。施华是着重优化蓝紫色波长的透过率的，红色波段低一些很正常。甘蔗没有两头甜。
网上没找到ELwb1042的曲线图，找张8542的看看好了，施华的双筒超过650以后下降趋势要比其他牌子明显，但在450-500nm区间有优势。

赵北旅

fihoo 发表于 2019-6-29 21:25
确实，当初883在手时候也是感觉一黄二暗，不过分辨率和色差倒是非常牛。话说这个表格一出，很多镜子也是 ...

其实严谨点应该标生产年份的，有些周期长的镜子，早期和晚期差了不是一点点。。。
不过这个确认年份的难度比较大。

赵北旅

qpx68 发表于 2019-6-30 15:28
我估计俄镜基本是都是50%左右的透光率，大尺寸的应该是40%左右

土鳖朝的95，好像自称是67%的透光率，之 ...

小镜子只要有镀膜，哪怕是单层的，一般也不至于惨到50以下。

赵北旅

qpx68 发表于 2019-6-30 15:30
透光率是望远镜很关键的指标，我觉得重要性仅次于光轴，

赵版的帖子很有价值

你有兴趣可以到这里看，这位老板的设备更专业。
https://www.houseofoutdoor.com/v ... ten-en-vergelijken/
当然还有allbino，但是太零碎了。

赵北旅

qpx68 发表于 2019-6-30 15:36
也就50左右吧

我记得见过一些大型仪器的透光率数值，是40几

大型仪器是有可能的，玻璃多+厚。

赵北旅

qpx68 发表于 2019-6-30 15:34
国内私人还是别测了

测了如果公开发表，砸人饭碗，

是的。这事其实没老刘说的那么难，要做的话我都可以做。
不过国外发布可以，国内发布我看那真的要鸡飞狗跳了。

赵北旅

qpx68 发表于 2019-7-1 09:45
所以湿滑家的透过曲线，过了650就迅速下沉，是图像干净漂亮的原因。

可能是有你说的这个情况。
换了家测试来源，看了几台曲线也是这样。
施华的到650就开始急降，尼康edg和徕卡hd差不多要到700才开始。
可以写篇文章谈谈。

赵北旅

如果追求真实的色彩表现的话，可见光波段的透过曲线是越平越好。